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Another wish:

- Having the ability to drag and drop all the notes within a particular note or note range. Cut/copy or paste it.

I remember this nice feature in MIDI Orchestrator Plus. You had a vertical keyboard, so imagine you wanted to drag and drop all G#3 notes in the musical scale.

You just had to click on the G#3 key and by doing it the program highlighted ALL the entire G#3 notes. From then you were able to drag and drop those notes in another key.

Cut or copy them, etc etc.

This would also be a good implementation to change and move drums notes.

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Not sure if my post was missed but it's here: http://www.synthfont.com/punbb/viewtopi … 1511#p1511

Something I would like is to allow those buttons to be used even in loops.

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Yes, I did miss that request. I really don't see a reason for it any longer. I'll get back in mid August.

29 (edited by Elven Spellmaker 2012-07-22 17:30:57)

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@Cose: You can already right click on a key in the piano roll to select all G#3 notes for the current active track and then you can use the transpose feature to move them about.
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@Kenneth: I have a little suggestion which would help me greatly with being able to read Piano Roll on the fly. Can you colour the black keys slightly darker for each octave please? (Maybe a global turn on and turn off for it for those who may not like that feature.)

An example below:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28476963/BlackKeyColour.png

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@Elven: I can certainly make them darker.

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Kenneth,
Please add the 11025hz No Limits mode to the Render Quality and Output Sample Rate options for people wanting to run commercial VSTis on NetTops for instance. My computer is a 1.6Ghz Pentium 4 architecture NetTop and cannot run the WIVI Band VSTi on 44100hz or 22050hz modes. I'm grateful for your considering this feature for me. Perhaps I'll also actually manage to help you get VSTi configurations to save for WIVI Band. I know I have long delayed that task.
Cheers

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Dratz-_C wrote:

Dear Kenneth,
Key and Velocity Blending (sound variation) responsive to CC11 expression data in a midi file would be wonderful for me. Also, in the tracks view, activating sound variation at program changes by pulling them up in the track dropdown list, selecting them with control and shift, and right clicking on the selections for another dropdown menu for sound variations with short, functional descriptions of each and a link to more detailed help would be equally wonderful. Doing the same for tracks by selecting them with control and shift and right clicking them would help me, as well. Of course this should also work with select all from the dropdown menu. I would also like a global option in the advanced settings area to set any sound variation combination by default, along with a checkbox to enable post-note on CC11 velocity blending. Does this sound reasonable?
Cheers

Kenneth,
Actually, it might be more useful to add this feature to the Default Override / Default SoundFont Override. Being able to switch on key+velocity blending responsive to CC11 on a per program basis could ensure that it is only used where there is a noticeable aural benefit. I am wondering if the net result of CC7 and CC11 should be used to determine weather SynthFont blends between soft velocity layers or loud velocity layers. CC7 typically is used to control channel volume, whereas CC11 is used to control instrument expression. Prior to sound variation in SynthFont this expression was usually just another version of volume control. So existing MIDI files may use some combination of CC7 and CC11 for volume control intending this combination to pass for mid-note adjustments in velocity. What do you think about this matter Kenneth?
Cheers

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The whole blending feature has been pretty obscure to me ever since the first experimental implementation in SynthFont2. I think the initial implementation is wrong, the blending ought the be performed using a much more clever algorithm based on FFT. This is currently on my todo-list for SynthFont2, but not for SynthFont1.

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I think it would be a great addition to Synthfont having a drop-down menu like the MIDI Program feature in Synthfont, but just for VSTs and DXi instruments. Having to scroll all the way down in the case of some VSTs makes things pretty slow and clumsy compared to the MIDI Program feature where you can very quickly select an instrument in comparison.

Music Creator shares the MIDI Program approach when it comes to VSTs and it makes things so much easier and visible.

It also encourages people to try new settings in a VST because the list of settings is much more comprehensible and less tedious to navigate.

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Code, I'm not 100% sure I follow you. Do you mean a dropdown menu with vsti PRESETS?

36 (edited by Cose 2012-08-01 16:23:13)

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X-D Now that was a fun typo, I know you have to write a lot of code so it's fine with me. Yes, I meant something similar.

I am sorry if I misworded something. What I was trying to say is that the VST settings could display in a similar way than the MIDI Program menu of Synthfont.

The VST spectrum is a broad range, I have like dozens of them and I try some more than others, obviously, but the point is that some VSTs feature a lot of settings and navigating them is slow and clumsy in Synthfont as of currently.

I think it is an easy feature to implement? I mean, if it doesn't put an awful burden on you. I certainly would love native DXi support, so we can add some of our favourite synths, but I understand you if that feature never makes it into Synthfont.

I still hope built-in DXi support will be featured some day though.

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Cose | *Code* -  to be more specific: In the tracks list header there is a button which pops up a list of SoundFont presets when you have a SoundFont selected for the track. This same button pops up the VST editor window for a VST instrument. How about a modified button with an additional dropdown arrow for a dropdown menu of all the VSTi presets defined by the VSTi?

NOTE: this approach only works with VSTis that publish their presets using the standard VST interface. I have some VSTs (effects and instruments) that only keep an internal list of presets which you can access only through the editor. The risk is that people don't understand this and wonder why the presets menu is empty (or have only one preset often called "Init").

OR, would it simply be OK if I replace the standard Windows dropdown list at the top of the editor window (which you must scroll through in case of many presets) with a dropdown menu? Is that what you are envisioning?

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Soooooo if there is other than "Init" or "default" those presets showing in a menu seems like a good idea and kinda consistent with how we choose a VST or a VSTI.  On several of my VSTI there seems to actually both... within the VSTI graphics itself there is sometimes a categorized list in some kind of order... as well as an often long scrollable list up in the SYNTHFONT wrapper header....which is tedious and confusing if one isn't really familiar with the VST or VSTI.... I agree that some folks may think something is wrong with the VST/VSTI or SYNTHFONT if they don't see the  preset selections in both places.... I've seen this same scenario in other DAWS and music softwares so i guess there is always going to be some of that happening. Still a menu, where possible, is a nice idea.

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Admin wrote:

Cose | *Code* -  to be more specific: In the tracks list header there is a button which pops up a list of SoundFont presets when you have a SoundFont selected for the track. This same button pops up the VST editor window for a VST instrument. How about a modified button with an additional dropdown arrow for a dropdown menu of all the VSTi presets defined by the VSTi?

NOTE: this approach only works with VSTis that publish their presets using the standard VST interface. I have some VSTs (effects and instruments) that only keep an internal list of presets which you can access only through the editor. The risk is that people don't understand this and wonder why the presets menu is empty (or have only one preset often called "Init").

OR, would it simply be OK if I replace the standard Windows dropdown list at the top of the editor window (which you must scroll through in case of many presets) with a dropdown menu? Is that what you are envisioning?

Not much to add to chasp's words, they describe my thoughts perfectly. Well, for the 846th time...  I misworded my suggestion again.

I meant the Output VST Effects menu, where the FxBus Chain is located. When you click on a VST and the options and settings window for that particular VST appears, the drop down menu doesn't show all the settings at the same time.

When a VST in particular features a lot of settings the navigation is slow. They are numbered and all, but having to scroll all the way down in increments of 8 settings every time isn't quick and very effective, hence an approach like you created in the MIDI Program feature would do wonders.

I know I insist, but... is there a possibility you may still think about adding native DXi support if it's possible for you? Kenneth, if you decide to add native DXi support, please let us know. If I could just help you with the *code*. : D Perhaps programming something like that can be a mean son.. wink but it would just enrich Synthfont a lot.

It's just that good soundfonts and a synth like the TTS-1 are amazing tools. I have to admit that the more time I use this soft synth the more I like it.

It works with a wrapper but Synthfont can easily behave in a capricious and buggy manner sometimes when it's about DXi support.

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DXi support can certainly be added. It is just a matter of a) extensive programming and b) more extensive testing. So it will not happen within the next month or so.

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Admin wrote:

The whole blending feature has been pretty obscure to me ever since the first experimental implementation in SynthFont2. I think the initial implementation is wrong, the blending ought the be performed using a much more clever algorithm based on FFT. This is currently on my todo-list for SynthFont2, but not for SynthFont1.

Kenneth,
I thought SynthFont2 might have been canceled. I'm glad it wasn't. Having looked up FFT, I do agree with you. I'm glad it is on the roadmap. However, would you consider adding 11025 hertz rendering to SynthFont 1 since I cannot use SynthFont2 because it is postponed?
Cheers

42 (edited by Elven Spellmaker 2012-08-03 20:03:17)

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Elven Spelmaker wrote:

@Kenneth: I have a little suggestion which would help me greatly with being able to read Piano Roll on the fly. Can you colour the black keys slightly darker for each octave please? (Maybe a global turn on and turn off for it for those who may not like that feature.)

An example below:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28476963/BlackKeyColour.png

You already partially have this feature as another form!

The scales function that shows grey bars and if left as C Maj or A Minor then it shows what I want, except I would rather they were a darker version of the octave colour rather than a dark grey. (Hopefully pointing this out might make it easier for you to code as the feature is nearly there!)

In other news I am using SynthFont 2e2 (I miss the Scroll to Tick too much so I'm still using 2 even though you've discontinued it) on Windows 8 Release Preview and it's working fine.
Doesn't look like much, if anything, needs to change for it to be Win8 compatible.

EDIT: Wow, how odd, the piano roll has just disappeared in 2e2 and I don't think it's ever done that before. o.o

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Hi everyone,

I think this is the right place for my feature request. I wish to add a little bit of trailing silence in the rendered audio. If the feature already exists somehow, can anyone tell me how to do it? smile

Many MIDI arrangements will not start with a "rest", so the first note plays instantly. Because of this, I sometimes get a distorted sound at the beginning with some players like Windows Media Player. Modifying the MIDI file may work, but doesn't seem the most convenient option.

The same may also be used for the end of the MIDI file, to maybe allow some room for the reverb/sustain to fade out.

Perhaps allow the start and end time markers to go beyond the MIDI arrangement boundaries? (though that might be confusing...)

Currently I use a tool called "mptrim" to append 0.3 seconds of silence, but I don't know whether it re-encodes the mp3 file, and whether the options I don't need are doing something else. I'd also be happy to know if there are better alternatives for the meantime.

Thank you and keep up the great work!

Cheers.

44 (edited by Cose 2012-08-18 19:25:40)

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What about a little brother/sister Synthfont player?

I find myself listening to some MIDI files online, without downloading them, and I miss some of the features of Synthfont when using other players.

In general, having a little "sibling" you can associate MIDI file formats with, load Soundfonts <3, Gigastudio files, whatever.... which utilizes the original Synthfont engine, allowing the program to also load VSTs and DXis based on the settings users have on the original Synthfont, would be a great idea.

Users would not only have a great MIDI player but also VST, DXi support -loading them at the beginning, like in Synthfont-. The interface is up to you, of course, but for instance you could use the Karaoke, playlist and playback progress window, etc.

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Andrew - there is a button in the Plug&Play page, in the Playback Progress group, you should look at first. It may help with adding enough tail to the tune, but it doesn't add any silence to the beginning. The button has a number of yellow rectangles, smaller and smaller. (Not a very good icon, I know).

Cose - please elaborate a little bit. What would you like to REMOVE from SynthFont to make this kid brother? (I have tried to make this alternative available by letting you choose "Just playing" in View|Select user level. But...)

46 (edited by chasp 2012-08-20 15:30:41)

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Hmmmmm.... Cose has an interesting point here... there are a zillion little midi players around with some at a price ...... for the life of me I cannot find a musicians smaller and very fast utility midi player that tells me all there is to know about a Midi file that also shows me the tracks/midi channels and the embedded volume/panning/preset, etc for each.
Why?..... well ! for me.... I audition an awful lot of midi files looking for some kind of quality and styling close to what I am seeking to do ( in SYNTHFONT).  Some of the "skins" available for XMPLAY tell me a lot about lengths, number of tracks, bit rate, output rates, etc and provides a quick n dirty audition play of the midi but tells me nothing about each channel....so auditioning become a two step process of viewing info on the total midi file on some internet site, a quick audition then if all that sounds OK.... saving the file for even more analysis in SYNTHFONT.
It would be terrific to see all that with a per channel perspective of each channel in some kind of SYNTHFONT utility player thats very very fast loading, has the ability to play a midi directly from a web site and shows me comprehensive info on not only the total midi but also for what the parameters are for each channel...
In actuality, even SYNTHFONT,  at this point does not tell me on a single summary display panel some of the parameters on a midi file...such as bit rate etc. I have no clue if this kind of thing is suitable for all musicians but it would be invaluable to those who spend a lot of time examining and auditioning MIDI FILES.
I suppose a SYNTHFONT lite player wouldn't need file saving, piano roll editing some of the other stuff the full blown SYNTHFONT has that makes it great for developing. However, I think it could provide a ton of info on the midi file and a better quality audition of the file.... IF..... IF.... it could load very fast and play a midi from a web site.
Chasp
Chasp

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Chasp, I kind of see what you mean. When it comes to midi files there's very little more information that can be displayed. You mention bit rate as an example, but this was a bad one, as there isn't anything like bit rate in a midi file. (The file has no audio information, as you well know).

A small addition I could easily make is to let you feed a web link to a midi file into SynthFont and have it been played, but the
whole file has to be downloaded at first - there's nothing like a streaming option for midi files (or then I have to come up with one!).

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Admin wrote:

Andrew - there is a button in the Plug&Play page, in the Playback Progress group, you should look at first. It may help with adding enough tail to the tune, but it doesn't add any silence to the beginning. The button has a number of yellow rectangles, smaller and smaller. (Not a very good icon, I know).

Cose - please elaborate a little bit. What would you like to REMOVE from SynthFont to make this kid brother? (I have tried to make this alternative available by letting you choose "Just playing" in View|Select user level. But...)

Some nice points Chasp mentioned already, and to add to what he said, in my case it's just that I love to listen to instrumental music.

And the problem is that I have a couple of thousands of MIDI files.

I am tired of downloading mediocre MIDI files of some of my favourite songs, or simply I just want to download.... let's say version 2 of a particular song instead of version 1 or 3 or 4 in a given website. But without listening to them first I download them all.

It is pretty time consuming since there are all sorts of stuff.


My favourite player to play MIDI files is Synthfont, but it's a full-fledged DAW, and it's clumsy in comparison with a little Synthfont player.

In order to listen to files directly on the web I use either Spider Player or XMPlay. Both support Soundfonts and have some cool features, like 32 bit audio processing and some other cool built-in characteristics.

Even so, I got accustomed to the VST/"DXi" support in Synthfont, its sound engine and most of its features and I miss not being able to play the files from the internet on Synthfont without having to download them or having a more simpler, straightforward interface.

Reason being, I think it would have been a good idea to have something similar to a little Synthfont sibling -Synthboy or Synthgirl X-D-.

Utilizing the foundations of Synthfont it could be an incredible neat player, giving native support Soundfonts and to VSTs -although sometimes I like to listen to files raw, without VSTs there are times that Synthfont sounds fantastic-, and having the windows conveniently organized in your interface the way you see convenient.

People could associate MIDI files to the pocket Synthfont player and play MIDI files directly from the web having all the basic advantages of Synthfont in one little cute player.

49 (edited by Elven Spellmaker 2012-08-21 21:13:26)

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@Kenneth: Is it possible to add a similar feature to the one above, adding a bar (or more) of beginning silence to a MIDI, often called intro bars in MIDI software.
For example: 1 extra bar which will appear in red (across all octaves) on the piano roll.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28476963/SynthFont%20Bugs/CurrentPianoRoll.png -> Suggestion for intro bars: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28476963/SynthFont%20Bugs/IntroPianoRollSuggestion.png

On the right is how the feature would look if the intro bar wasn't there in the MIDI but you had added one intro silence bar. It would help me greatly with playing from MIDI scores that don't have intro silence. big_smile


@Cose: What about Kenneth's Winamp plug-in? It only allows one SoundFont and doesn't handle multiple banks (Only bank 0), so I wonder if you can prod Kenneth to work on it some more?

EDIT: Actually look here:

Kenneth wrote:

Now I will do some stuff with my very old Winamp plugin and the VST plugin.

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Released version 1.621 today.
It is mostly a bug fix - nothing really sexy among the few new features.
I considered adding a few things from this thread, but I simply had to get it out now due to the number of bugs found - and fixed.